Städtenamen wie "Golden Leaves"

**Mamezo** · 23. März 2007, 18:56

Zitat von robin92

Ich bin persönlich gegen eine Umbenennung der Namen, da sie ja keine Verständnisprobleme hervorrufen können. Und außerdem, wie sollte man z. B. "Kwythellar" übersetzen?

Um sowas geht es ja gar nicht, das sind glasklare Eigennamen. Der Punkt sind die z.B. bei den Orks häufig auftretenden Namen, die aus englischen Begriffen bestehen oder englische Adjektive enthalten - Death Sky (Finsterhimmel), Golden Leaves ( Goldlaub) etc.

Und Kontri sagt doch, dass es tendenziell möglich ist, xmls zu ersetzen. Und fragen bei Kael würde auch nix kosten

**Kontrollator** · 23. März 2007, 19:17

Also ich habe kein Problem damit wenn du mir eine Liste mit städte Namen schickst und die übersetzungsvorschläge dazu, dann änder ich das gerne in der xml datei.

Ich kanns dann auch hier online stellen, dann kann jeder user selbst entscheiden ob er die datei mit neuen städtenamen ersetzt oder nicht

**delnan** · 23. März 2007, 19:28

OK, das ist 'nen guter vorschlag.

**Tobbe** · 23. März 2007, 23:34

Zitat von Kontrollator

Also ich habe kein Problem damit wenn du mir eine Liste mit städte Namen schickst und die übersetzungsvorschläge dazu, dann änder ich das gerne in der xml datei.

Ich kanns dann auch hier online stellen, dann kann jeder user selbst entscheiden ob er die datei mit neuen städtenamen ersetzt oder nicht

Ja bitte eine seperate datei

Mir jagen Namen wie "Finsterhimmel", "Goldlaub", Hügelfern" usw. nämlich Schauer des Entsetzens über den Rücken...

**Kontrollator** · 23. März 2007, 23:42

Zitat von Tobbe

Ja bitte eine seperate datei

Ich wüsste auch nicht wie ich es rein Technisch anders machen sollte

**Darklor** · 24. März 2007, 02:45

Also es sollte moeglich sein - schau Dir mal die City-Datei von einem anderen Mod an. Vanilla Civ macht es genauso fuer die verschiedenen Sprachen

Darklor

**Kontrollator** · 24. März 2007, 03:11

Also ich denke nicht das ich eine Anleitung benötige, ich weiss ungefähr wo die städtenamen zu finden sind.

**Mamezo** · 24. März 2007, 14:52

Dann poste sie doch bitte. Ich weiß es nicht und will nicht Ewigkeiten im WB verbringen, um alle Städtenamen durchzugehen, um die paar englischen zu finden

**Kontrollator** · 24. März 2007, 15:10

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<City>Ah'roog</City>
<City>Belphemon</City>
<City>Death Fort</City>
<City>Nezhev</City>
<City>Naga's Tail</City>
<City>Shavraim</City>
<City>Dark Sky</City>
<City>Ator</City>
<City>Baal</City>
<City>Gurr'ash</City>
<City>Mephisto</City>
<City>Wallara</City>
<City>Deep Dark</City>
<City>Shahav</City>
<City>Ghouls Touch</City>
<City>Cay</City>
<City>Heaven's Bane</City>
<City>Tu'eth</City>
<City>Death's Head</City>
<City>Dark Heart</City>
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<City>Thariss</City>
<City>Gereth Minar</City>
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<City>Idris</City>
<City>Brakkah</City>
<City>Enoreth</City>
<City>Geron</City>
<City>Aeleris' Pits</City>
<City>Drax Tallen</City>
<City>Geffron</City>
<City>Malor</City>
<City>Avien</City>
<City>Essuria</City>
<City>Lothenar</City>
<City>Bloody Head</City>
<City>Black Axe</City>
<City>Wolf Claw</City>
<City>Evil Eye</City>
<City>Beast Clan</City>
<City>Goathorns</City>
<City>Tarka</City>
<City>Helshaven</City>
<City>Terror</City>
<City>Herath</City>
<City>Sickly Mist</City>
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<City>Prespur</City>
<City>Nubia</City>
<City>Acaia</City>
<City>Morr'ta'nar</City>
<City>Adonias</City>
<City>San'ta'ron</City>
<City>Pavu'nar</City>
<City>Krinera</City>
<City>Itos</City>
<City>Maron</City>
<City>Pina'dom</City>
<City>Amapia</City>
<City>Kasava</City>
<City>Pevas</City>
<City>Anaea</City>
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<City>Galveholm</City>
<City>Grottiburg</City>
<City>Tongurstad</City>
<City>Graelingvig</City>
<City>Steinvik</City>
<City>Kuldevind</City>
<City>Vargstad</City>
<City>Skadistad</City>
<City>Nidhoggstad</City>
<City>Bjoernlingburg</City>
<City>Morkurburg</City>
<City>Jordekburg</City>
<City>Stromstad</City>
<City>Frost</City>
<City>Lade</City>
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<City>Kvellig</City>
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<City>Kador</City>
<City>Longrud</City>
<City>Draed</City>
<City>Ordstone</City>
<City>Astori</City>
<City>Utomach</City>
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<City>Tangut</City>
<City>Hooplak</City>
<City>Sliktor</City>
<City>Ashtuk</City>
<City>Yak's Spur</City>
<City>Sacred Cavern</City>
<City>Drakon</City>
<City>Rorkat</City>
<City>Latkor</City>
<City>Tarkar</City>
<City>Black Heart</City>
<City>Goblin's Head</City>
<City>Roxar</City>
<City>Caltakk</City>
<City>Retlan</City>
<City>Telkar</City>
<City>Zlak</City>
<City>Skull Fort</City>
<City>Bok</City>
<City>Lakis</City>
<City>Plaktur</City>
<City>Hupkur</City>
<City>Tai-luk</City>
<City>Gatorbone</City>
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<City>Myrean</City>
<City>Spilan</City>
<City>Deluoc</City>
<City>Kalocly</City>
<City>Uddrur</City>
<City>Domir</City>
<City>Kabhalg</City>
<City>Hyol</City>
<City>Sludgehome</City>
<City>Dirage</City>
<City>Ultigar</City>
<City>Straatus</City>
<City>Zbolub</City>
<City>Ahepetr</City>
<City>Nininsnal</City>
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So das sollten sie alle gewesen sein

Ich hatte jetzt nicht die muße alle städtenamen aus dem code zu befreien

Edith sagte mir gerade das die ganzen städte name auch in der englischen wiki stehen und ich mir das posten hier hätte sparen können

**Mamezo** · 24. März 2007, 16:35

Bannor
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Trinity

Dreieinigkeit
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Malakim
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Golden Leane

Goldlaub
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Elohim
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Cahir Abbey

Warrenpoint

Ring of Sion

Ring des Sion
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Basium
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Bourne the Gleaming

Bourne, die schimmernde Stadt
Am liebsten würde ich diese substantivierten Adjektive ja rausschmeissen. Gibt keine Entsprechung im Deutschen.

Gap of Lond

Schlucht des Lond

High Clere

Hoch- Clere

Priory Hold

Priorat des Einflusses?

Ains Field

Ainsfeld
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Luchuirp
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Das waren jetzt mal Vorschläge für die guten Civs, Verbesserungsvorschläge sind gern gesehen.

**Darklor** · 24. März 2007, 22:26

Zitat von Kontrollator

Also ich denke nicht das ich eine Anleitung benötige, ich weiss ungefähr wo die städtenamen zu finden sind.

Es ging nich darum sie zu finden, sondern darum, wie man sie uebersetzen kann - dafuer musste noch nichmal Kael um Hilfe bitten.

Darklor

**Darklor** · 24. März 2007, 23:12

Hae?

Also ich finde es gibt Namen, die man nich uebersetzen sollte, nur weil man es kann, denn sie hoeren sich auf deutsch einfach blöd als Staedtenamen an, genauso wie einige der englichen Namen doof klingen.

z.B. Trinity wuerd ich so lassen.
und obs Field or Feld heisst find ich egal

Priory ist eine Priorei - und Hold find ich klingt in diesem Fall besser als Halt.

Zitat:
Bourne the Gleaming
Bourne, die schimmernde Stadt
Am liebsten würde ich diese substantivierten Adjektive ja rausschmeissen. Gibt keine Entsprechung im Deutschen.

Warum nich "Schimmernde Grenze"?

Zitat:
Gap of Lond
Schlucht des Lond

Warum nich umdrehen in: Londs Riss/Spalt/Kluft/Schlucht ?

Zitat:
Ring of Sion
Ring des Sion

Genauso koennte man es hier machen: Sions Ring

Darklor

**Mamezo** · 25. März 2007, 00:51

Ich habe doch gesagt, es sind nur Vorschläge. Natürlich sind die editierbar und einige deiner Versionen finde ich auch besser.
Wie schon gesagt: es ist schlicht inkonsequent, einen so wichtigen, omnipräsenten Teil des Mods nicht zu übersetzen.

**Camillo** · 25. März 2007, 16:46

p.s. richtig

**Kontrollator** · 10. April 2007, 10:53

so und hier ist das ein bisschen eingeschlafen?

oder gibts nur eine kreative pause

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