against
against
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McMonkey = For
Gelion = For
Alcibaides = Against
Civilionaut = Against
Cobra = Abstain
Jerec =
Barthi = Against
Right then, it looks like whichever way Jerec votes the best I can hope for is a draw. In this case I will play the turn from the save just after the fall of Paris!
:cheers:
Geändert von McMonkey (30. Mai 2010 um 12:11 Uhr)
Same as before up to an including the capture of Paris. After this I killed 4 Partisans.
Geändert von McMonkey (09. Juni 2011 um 23:09 Uhr)
For. The rules don't exclude a Vichy government being propped up in France by Germany a 2nd time, and when a puppet government is in place, all control of the area falls under the puppeteer. So it makes sense that all the northern cities of France come under German control. The French cities in the south could logically become Free French because the requirements have already been met, and their proximity to the Allies would supposedly allow them to not fall under control of the Paris puppet government. Just my own two cents on the issue.
2 US Infantry and 1 Tank Rgt destroyed outside Helsinki
2 US Fighters and 2 bombers shot down near Helsinki, 1 fighter lost
Attach launched against US troops in Turku, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 tank, 2 Infantry, and 4(can't remember exact number?) bombers destroyed, 2 Infantry lost.
"Cease firing, but if any enemy planes appear, shoot them down in a friendly fashion." -Admiral William Halsey
While most finnish units left Helsinki to siege and attack Turku, US marines conquered their hometown, supportet by bombers.
1 bunker, 3 infantrie destroyed - 3 mobile Artillerie, 1 bomber lost
Helsinki liberatet, most finish units outside couldn´t be supported any longer.
1 fighter shot down, 2 partizans killed without losts
Geändert von Cobra (11. Juni 2011 um 14:46 Uhr)
Wenn du tot bist, dann weißt du nicht, dass du tot bist, es ist nur schwer für die anderen. Genau so ist es, wenn du blöd bist.
I cannot find any flaws in your logic Jerec, you are right that the House Rules do not exclude a vichy government occuring twice.
But would the French surrender twice? Possibly......
I can no longer think of any reason why Germany should not get to take over those cities in the North. Therefore I would change my vote to "For".
But I think that in the next version of the game, you should explicitly state that after France has been liberated once and changed back to the Allies, it cannot be forced to swap to the Axis a second time.
That makes the vote now 4 vs 2 in favour of France surrendering:
McMonkey = For
Gelion = For
Alcibaides = For
Civilionaut = Against
Cobra = Abstain
Jerec = For
Barthi = Against
Therefore I claim a moral victory, but I am willing to continue with the game as it is now as I agree with Alcibaides proposed house rule for the next version of this scenario Besides, the capture of Paris and the destruction of a large proportion of the French army was a good result for Germany!
Flurbereinigungen:
it:
- 1 x AA
Bin ich jetzt noch dabei
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Yes, you are up.
Ger lose:
1x Panzer Rgt (G)
1x Panzergrenadier Rgt (G)
German Army in France is are the Russia Army the Army is very big East front are open, I would say
Verbesserungsvorschlag
Deutsche Einheiten sollten mehr kosten, sie sind ja auch besser im Angriff.
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I think you underestimate the strength of the Wehrmacht!
In the Balkans
Czernowitz captured, lost 8 infantry and 5 bombers.
In Finland
Sortavala captured, lost 2 bombers.
Vipurri carpet bombed, lost 5 bombers. City is empty for the Americans.
In Italy:
Florence carpet bombed, lost 3 bombers. City is empty for the British.
On the Eastern Front:
The undefended city of Daugavpils is occupied.
In France:
1 German mobile infantry killed outside Paris.
No news from Italy this month...
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Two French Partisans and one Bomber destroyed.
Geändert von McMonkey (09. Juni 2011 um 23:09 Uhr)