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[bongo]

Who knows where the save is....

Had a chat with lucky last turn. A brief summary: GWT+GCA killed those 3 riders last turn. Sadly, GCA didn't have enough units to block more units landing next turn. CFC got 3 more ships out there, only 2 can unload next turn. We really don't have enogh troops to take them all out but we can do 5 with luck...The hope is that CFC is pleased with double war-happiness and their GA. As GCA left only one spot open at the coast, we also hope CFC will think it is a trap...


Here the chatlog, sorry 'bout the BS

[bongo]

Looking at it now, brief update:
Navigation next turn(it doesn't look like we will be able to lower research to 20% though), APO has landed 1 musket in the north, CFC has *not* landed further units in the south.

More later

[bongo]

1 monarchy and WM from GCA

2 university in webringen->horseman?

3 Marketplace in luxbergen->horseman?

4 cathedral in otternasenhausen->Library

5 Navigation in 1 turn, science can be lowered to 30%, 20% seems to be impossible though

6 worker in milchstrand->another

7 horseman in ruhrpott->another

8 worker in alpha->another

9 caravel in delta->temple

10 Someone might have noticed this earlier but did you know we had an Elucidian citizen in Gamma?!?


11 Ansars Reisswolf finds that APO has landed 1 musket in the north, attack?

12 GWS Feuerlamme goes s,w,s, CFC has not landed more units. This is good news as we can shift focus slightly, like scouting in the west(see next point)

13 KavregMav_son finds another APO ship in southwest. I'd like to move some ansars closer so we can give whatever they got onboard a warm welcome

Navy movement.
20 We do some scouting to check out that new island.

21 We got a harbor ready in ruhrgebiet next turn, we should move a couple of ships that direction so they can upgrade next turn. Units wall the beaches while our ships are in port.

22 That APO-caravel keeps going east, probably to explore the map. Should we assemble a fleet to deal with it? We can send 4 ships from our northeast. If nothing else, we can delay them finding that new island

23 Lets give that barb galley another try with the catapult, if we hit, we attack it with GWS nordpol, which should move to a harbor for upgrades anyway.

Army movement.
30 We send ansars south and build new units at home. New roads in GCA-gebiet makes it easier to position troops for welcoming APO on GCAs westcoast.

Worker actions.
40+ Too much to do now, will look at it tonight but we continue developing our good cities and add some workers here and there(nerw+otter this turn)


Left out many numbers for you to play with

[Arne]

Nur fix etwas zu ein paar ausgewählten Punkten:

10 Yes. And as anyone can see, they are happy being Webringians now. Falls nochmal jemand ne Story schreibt, wäre das eine nette kleine Randgeschichte wert, oder?

11 Lets say hello to them.

12

13 Einverstanden, lasst uns ein paar nette Willkommens-Transparente malen.

20 Jupp. Viel Erfolg, Wikingerbraut!

22 Ich würde die auch gerne schnell versenken, zumal APO die Gegend um Parthemünde und Leifsfischen IMHO noch nicht kennt...

[Flati]

zu 2.) Ich bin für ein Musketier: Grund in 3 Runden ist Tzun Tzu fertig also dann steht auch eine Kaserne in Webringen. EIn Reiter wäre zu schnell fertig und hätte nur 3 Hitpoints
zu 11.) Attacke!!!

[zerialienguru]

1. GCA forscht jetzt hoffentlich Druckpresse, hab sicherheitshalber im Botschaftsforum nachgefragt.
Wir senden WM
2. Colosseum als vorbau für Bank
3. Kathedrale, danach nur noch Mil (Wachstum in vier Runden, weitere 10 Runden später pop9 und Unruhen ohne Kathedrale
4. ok
5. macht nichts
6-9 ok
10. Ja, die Stadt wurde doch durch GCA gegründet, die den Siedler in einer Elucidia-Stadt gerusht wurde.
11. Nein!!!! Wäre doch klasse, wenn Apo denkt, wir wissen davon nichts.
Sollen sie da doch mehr anlanden, wir könnne die gut angreifen, die uns aber nicht wegen Hügel+Berg
12. Gut, sonst wäre es brenzlig geworden. Hat CFC jetzt eigentlich das GA?
13. Ja, Sandviper, Abd, Mav-son, Wüstensohn und Kastanie

20. bin gespannt!
Wo könnten wir denn einen Siedler einschieben, Leifsfischen?
wenn man da siedeln kann, muss da auch eine stadt hin!
21. ok
22. GWS Nordpol no, no, no, nächste Runde haben wir Navi.
Wir müssen die restlichen Karavellen finden, scheint, als wäre der Angriff auf Ruhrpott abgeblasen
Daher: Küstenblockade KOMPLETT aufheben!
Falls sie doch anlanden, gibts Haue
23. Ich hoffe, die segelt nach Norden und greift das Apo-Schiff an

30 -

40. Bringt das überhaupt zehn Schilde, den wald bei Eisgarten abzuholen?
Immerhin ahben wir den auch geplanzt...

50 Ertragswechsel: flammburg von Prärie+Bewässerung im Nordosten auf Küstenfeld, das freie Feld kann Otter bekommen, nachdem sich der Worker angeschlossen hat.
So weiterhin +3 Nahrung/R
Der Hügel südöstlich von Wüstenblau sollte Straße+Mine bekommen, damit der hügel im Nordwesten an Otter gehen kann
Ergibt für Otter:
pop9 + 3Nahrung
pop10 +3 Nahrung
pop11 + 2 Nahrung
pop12 + 0 Nahrung (wir nehmen dann Ertrag vom Goldberg)
Daher muss Otter auch eine Uni haben, stadt liegt nahe zur HS, hat mehrere Flussfelder und einen Goldberg, das sollten wir voll ausnutzen.

Was haltet ihr von einer Stadt auf dem Wald südwestlich von Eumelsand?
Mit Tempel kriegt die Stadt den Wal rein und mit Hafen gäbe es neun nutzbare Seefelder, das gibt viel Gold!

Btw: GCA hat schon 20 Städte, CFC hat nur 19

PS: würd mich freuen, wenn nachher noch ein paar Leute in die Kolonie reinschauen, Selbstgespräche sind extrem langweilig...

[helios]

2. kolosseum als Vorbau ist ne gute Idee.
3. Kath klingt gut.
9. Worker
11. Angriff.
13. ok
20. jepp, dort muss ne Stadt hin, Siedler vom Leif oder Panama nehmen. Tendiere eher zu Panama.
40. bringt nur Schild, wenn vorher auf dem Feld noch nie Wald abgeholzt wurde. Ich kann mich an eine Rodung nicht erinnern.
@Stadt, ich würde eine noch ein Feld südlicher bauen. So kann man an den Wal gelangen.

[bongo]

Some pics for you.

11 I would prefer to attack that APO musket as they have likely seen our ansars anyway

12 Feueflamm found 2 CFC ships , I suggest we cover the ivory with al-Zubayr

13 Mav_sons discovery, wüstensohne found nothin further north

20 Wikingerbrat found a small island with a hut, lets turn home to kill APOs karavel, and pick up a unit for the hut.

24 Drachentöter(by lousville) e,e,e to avoid attack by now empty APO-caravel.

[zerialienguru]

viel interessanter ist der Wal bei der kleinen Insel, da wo die Hütte ist, muss die Stadt hin.

@Apo
Ich würds schon gut finden, wenn Apo da seinen ganzen Truppen an Land bringt, besser als irgendwo neben Parth oder so.
Da wo jetzt der Musket steht sind Apos militärische Möglichkeiten extrem eingeschränkt.

[bongo]

I just want to kill it while I have the opportunity

[bongo]

My final suggestion, lacks some detail here and there...



1 monarchy and WM from GCA

2 university in webringen->musket

3 Marketplace in luxbergen->cathedral

4 cathedral in otternasenhausen->Library

5 Navigation in 1 turn, science can be lowered to 30%, 20% seems to be impossible though

6 worker in milchstrand->another

7 horseman in ruhrpott->another

8 worker in alpha->another

9 caravel in delta->temple

10 Someone might have noticed this earlier but did you know we had an Elucidian citizen in Gamma?!?


11 Ansars Reisswolf finds that APO has landed 1 musket in the north, attack

12 GWS Feuerlamme goes s,w,s, CFC has not landed more units. This is good news as we can shift focus slightly, like scouting in the west(see next point)

13 KavregMav_son finds another APO ship in southwest. I'd like to move some ansars closer so we can give whatever they got onboard a warm welcome
(mav-son, wüstensohn, wüstenrose and kastanie is in position)

Navy movement.
20 We do some scouting to check out that new island.
GWS Wikingerbrat e,ne,n, island looks small, one hut there

21 We got a harbor ready in ruhrgebiet next turn, we should move a couple of ships that direction so they can upgrade next turn. Units wall the beaches while our ships are in port.
GWS Elfenboot s,ne,f - GWS Dick n,f both will be able to reach the harbor next turn
GWS Kûbel n,f to cover hole in scout-chain

22 That APO-caravel keeps going east, probably to explore the map. Should we assemble a fleet to deal with it? We can send 4 ships from our northeast. If nothing else, we can delay them finding that new island(see 28 & 29)

23 Lets give that barb galley another try with the catapult, if we hit, we attack it with GWS nordpol, which should move to a harbor for upgrades anyway.

24 Drachentöter e,e,e to avoid attack by APO-caravel(and join forces with Unversenkbar 2)

25 New caravel "GWS Unversenkbar 2" s,s,sw to drop off 3 ansars

26 GWS Doof is in nerw, just upgraded e,e,ne, will be able to cover the 'luxberger bucht' by itself next turn when we got navigation

27 Rote Hering n,nw,w

28 Fischstabchen n,n,nw

29 Haimat n,n,nw

Army movement.
30 We send ansars south and build new units at home. New roads in GCA-gebiet makes it easier to position troops for welcoming APO on GCAs westcoast.

wachsames auge, back in position southeast of panama

Other units between parthemunde and panama shift around to prepare a wall.

Völkerwanderung -> delta

5-ergruppe by luxbergen, stay in place

musket indrefilet sw,s,s

Musket meeresblick->delta

3-ergruppe in südspitze -south past beta
5-ergruppe by beta, move past cubalibre
4 pikes+catas move westish
Worker actions.

14+15 road

16+18-clear forest

35 join otternasenhausen

30 n,ne,ne

34 ne,n,n

19+22 road

32 ne,clear forest

9 n, mine

39 join nerw

worker 41(from milchstrand) -> kernland

37 n,n,n

worker 40(from beta) ne,i (finished)

worker 4 renamed GCworker 4-s,sw,i

trell 3+4+5 road

Cities:
After zeris suggestions on otternasenhausen I like to add 2 workers this turn.

40 You get shield from cutting forest *once* per tile per game. It doesn't matter if you planted the forest yourself or it was there all the time. The first time you cut it, you gets shield, the second, nothing.

[bongo]

Will play tomorrow, gotta talk with lucky first.

[Preussi]

1

2 Musket

3 Kathedrale

4 Lib

5 Hab ein wenig mit Wissenschaftlern experimentiert, nichts zu machen

6

7

8

9 Temple

10 The only Elucidians who will win this game

11 immer drauf

12/13

20 $$$$

21 good idea

22 no bad idea

23

24

25

26

27/28/29

30

wachsames auge, back in position southeast of panama

Other units between parthemunde and panama shift around to prepare a wall.

Völkerwanderung -> delta

5-ergruppe by luxbergen, stay in place

musket indrefilet sw,s,s

Musket meeresblick->delta

3-ergruppe in südspitze -south past beta
5-ergruppe by beta, move past cubalibre
4 pikes+catas move westish

Worker actions.

Cities:
After zeris suggestions on otternasenhausen I like to add 2 workers this turn.

I agree.


@ Bongo: Don´t use your spanish version if you play the turn.

[bongo]

Turn protocol 840ad

1 monarchy and WM from GCA

2 university in webringen->musket

3 Marketplace in luxbergen->cathedral

4 cathedral in otternasenhausen->Library

5 Navigation in 1 turn, science can be lowered to 30%, 20% seems to be impossible though

6 worker in milchstrand->another

7 horseman in ruhrpott->another

8 worker in alpha->another

9 caravel in delta->temple

10 Someone might have noticed this earlier but did you know we had an Elucidian citizen in Gamma?!?


11 Ansars Reisswolf finds that APO has landed 1 musket in the north, attack
Reiswolf vs Enamel the musketman, Reiswolf win, -1hp

12 GWS Feuerlamme goes s,w,s, CFC has not landed more units. This is good news as we can shift focus slightly, like scouting in the west(see next point)

13 KavregMav_son finds another APO ship in southwest. I'd like to move some ansars closer so we can give whatever they got onboard a warm welcome
(mav-son, wüstensohn, wüstenrose and kastanie is in position)

Navy movement.
20 We do some scouting to check out that new island.
GWS Wikingerbrat e,ne,n, island looks small, one hut there

21 We got a harbor ready in ruhrgebiet next turn, we should move a couple of ships that direction so they can upgrade next turn. Units wall the beaches while our ships are in port.
GWS Elfenboot s,ne,f - GWS Dick n,f both will be able to reach the harbor next turn
GWS Kûbel n,f to cover hole in scout-chain

22 That APO-caravel keeps going east, probably to explore the map. Should we assemble a fleet to deal with it? We can send 4 ships from our northeast. If nothing else, we can delay them finding that new island(see 28 & 29)

23 Cata takes 1 hp of barbgalley
GWSnordpol sink barbgalley, will go to darhoven later for upgrades

24 Drachentöter e,e,e to avoid attack by APO-caravel(and join forces with Unversenkbar 2)

25 New caravel "GWS Unversenkbar 2" s,s,sw to drop off 3 ansars

26 GWS Doof e,e,ne, will be able to cover the 'luxberger bucht' by itself next turn when we got navigation

27 Rote Hering n,nw,w

28 Fischstabchen n,n,nw

29 Haimat n,n,nw

GWS Windhose s,s,sw (out to find APOs fleet next turn)

GWS Kabeljau nw,w,w

Army movement.
30 We send ansars south and build new units at home. New roads in GCA-gebiet makes it easier to position troops for welcoming APO on GCAs westcoast.

wachsames auge, back in position southeast of panama

Other units between parthemunde and panama shift around to prepare a wall.

Völkerwanderung -> delta

5-ergruppe by luxbergen, stay in place

musket indrefilet sw,s,s

Musket meeresblick->delta

3-ergruppe in südspitze -south past beta
5-ergruppe by beta, move past cubalibre
4 pikes+catas move westish
Worker actions.

14+15 road

16+18-clear forest

35+30 join otternasenhausen


34 ne,n,n

19+33 road

32 ne,clear forest

9 n, mine

39 join nerw

worker 41(from milchstrand) -> kernland

37 n,n,n

worker 40(from alpha) ne,i (finished)

worker 4 renamed GCworker 4-s,sw,i

trell 3+4+5 road

Cities:
41 hurry temple in louisville, 40g

42 hurry worker in gamma, 20g

43 hurry cathedral in hoppelgarten 104g

44 world map to GCA

53g in kasse, +208,

10 shields harvested to eisgarten when I hit enter, barbgalley attack APO-ship, no damage



And some pics of course

[bongo]

Here's the 'F11' statistics from turn 810 and 840

840AD GWT APO CFC(GA) GCA
GNP 921 760 420 199
mfg 272 277 160 74

810AD GWT APO CFC GCA*
GNP 868 724 276 160
mfg 260 266 75 52

*tall fra 790
CFC made a *huge* jump cause of their GA. Both we and GCA are making good progress as well

No new techs were discovered by our foes on the other continent btw.