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[bongo]

1 Ins save schauen bitte

2 GCA offers wine, accepted

3 Rioting in Luxbergen...hmmf, when I enter the city everything looks OK?!?!
same in Milchstrand, otternasenhausen, elfenhain, eumelsand, anja, leifsfischen, wiesental, hopelgarten, eisengart, eichenküste, südpforte, nordpforte, eisgarten, alpha.
It looks to me like the wine doesn't kick in until *after* each city riots, cause when I enter each cities to check things out, the wine seems to be back in order
EDIT:Hiring one entertainer in the affected cities stopped the riots, except for Luxbergen of course...
EDIT2:Like candrian said, fiddling with the workers works even better

4 Temple in Gamma -> worker.

5 Only one CFC visible east of cuba libre (check pic)

6 Many APO(7+1) ships visible in the north, they didn't escape the watchful eye of GWS Doof (pic 2)

7 Milchstrand builds worker, now what? We should find something better to do than build another worker(1 turn)??

8 We don't have RoP with GCA anymore What's worse, the game crash when I try to view details on GCA on the diplomacy screen. Please try it yourself to confirm the bug.
Sending them an accepted RoP works fine though...

9 Astronomy in 2 turns Even better, if we lower science rate to 40% and hire 6 scientists, we will still be ready in 2 turns but with +122 gold

10 cata north of Alpha, rename to Riesenfauste A, moves N,N,N

11 GCA-army - O

12 ansar Albert F

13 Ansar sluckauf+sturmböe F

14 def div flammburg + musketman(now called Henrik) 3*n

15 Pike peter ustinov, no barracks in webringen anymore so I'll send him towards 3.14 for upgrades, 3*w

16 Ansar Ingo no,n,s

17 Rob Halford ' '

18 GWS Ostwächter n,n,f

19 GWS Streihholz nw,f (will move back next turn, I want to screen the Eumelbucht completely)

Workers
Ruhrgebiet is almost fully developed so I want to move the following back to our alte kernland.
20 worker 34 3*o
21 worker 15+18 2*so,o
22 worker 19 3*so
23 worker 7+30 n,n,no
New worker in Milchstrand 3*s (what number btw?)

24 worker 3 (by new catchopolis) - goin home?(N)

25 Discuss:
We know where polys fleet is now, that is, most of it. Some ships are still unaccounted for. Still, 8 ships are visible outside eisgarten. Should we 'invite' poly to land next to Eisgarten? We got 46+ ansars that can be ready to strike the landing zone next turn.
If we gather worker 8,10,17 on one tundra tile to plant forest, there will be two tiles ready for APO. We should use GWS bretterbalken to clear the dark spot outside wiesental first, in case poly got ships there as well.

26 We got three galley watching the coast from Leifsfischen and southeastish. It's time to pull them back now. They will be of more use guarding the bay north of hoppelgarten.

27 Did I forget anything?

[Candrian]

EDIT:Hiring one entertainer in the affected cities stopped the riots, except for Luxbergen of course...

There's no need of entertainers. Just click through the cities. Take away one producing field and give it back. That works also.

(warums schreib ich eigentlich in englisch? )

[bongo]

Ah so that's how it works Thanks

[Flati]

wie wirkt sich eigentlich die Unruhe in Luxbergen auf die Forschung von Astro aus? also wieviel Lampen gehen dadurch verloren?

[zerialienguru]

8 We don't have RoP with GCA anymore What's worse, the game crash when I try to view details on GCA on the diplomacy screen. Please try it yourself to confirm the bug.
Sending them an accepted RoP works fine though...

******e!!!!
Bei mir crasht es auch, also haben wir das gleiche Problem wie im DG3...
Ich werde mongoose+FortyJ anschreiben um sie darauf hinzuweisen.
vielleicht haben wir Glück und eine Kriegserklärung von GCA an uns behebt das Problem, andernfalls fürchte ich, wird auch dieses Spiel nicht zuende gehen

[Flati]

yep bei mir crashts auch hoffentlich nimmt das nicht die Außmaße wie beim DG3 an wäre sehr schade...

[Candrian]

Hmm. War das letzte Runde auch schon? Sonst gehen wir einfach eine Runde zurück und bringen die Wein-Geschichte anders über die Bühne. Glaube beinahe das hängt damit zusammen.

[zerialienguru]

Möglich ist es, ich werde erstmal mongoose und FortyJ anschreien und sie auf das Problem hinweisen.
Da es letzte Runde noch ging (ich habs aufgerufen), müssen wir es ab 780ad neu versuchen.
Das bedeutet aber, das wir aktiv ins Game eingreifen müssen, weil wir nicht alle drei Städte an GCA schenken, sondern nur zwei (zumindest fällt mir da momentan keine andere Lösung ein).

[Flati]

@Zeri kannst du das bitte im Zugthread mal schreiben dmait die sich nicht zu tote warten..

[zerialienguru]

ja mache ich
btw, wenn wir den Wein nicht annehmen stürzt das Spiel auch ab.

[bongo]

wie wirkt sich eigentlich die Unruhe in Luxbergen auf die Forschung von Astro aus? also wieviel Lampen gehen dadurch verloren?

We lose some, obviously. But not that many, if Luxbergen didn't riot, we would probably get away with 1-2 scientists.

[Flati]

achso was haltet ihr eigentlich von der Idee einen Landeplatz bei Eisgarten freizugeben? Es sind dort nur 8 Apokaravellen also maximal 24 Einheiten anlandbar. GWS Doof würde ich NO verlegen wollen, Apo denkt dann vielleicht wir haben sie nicht gesehen und landen unvorsichtiger Weise an. Vielleicht macht Apo nen riesen Fehler... unsre Ansaren sollten mit den Problem fertig werden... Das muss aber so aussehen das wir nicht genug Zeit hatten alles dicht zu machen, also praktisch ne gefakte Schwachstelle. Am besten noch den Wald freigeben um sie noch mehr zu verlocken das wir nicht damit rechnen(da kommen sie eh nicht direkt hin) alle anderen EInheiten müssen da aber aus der Sichtweite...

Edit: Bongo hats ja schon angedeutet... nur GWS Doof muss weg damits so aussieht das wir sie nicht gesehen haben..

[zerialienguru]

Kam gerade von FortyJ

Zeri:

Try sending me the save(s) in question and I'll take a look at it when I can. Unfortunately, because it's also happening in another game of yours, it's likely that it's a programming bug and something that cannot be fixed by me.

If it does turn out to be a programming problem with the game itself, then this may need to be discussed openly in the forum between all teams to determine how we should best proceed.

FortyJ

Ich werd ihm 780ad und 790ad schicken
sobald er mir seine Addy verraten hat, steht nicht im Profil

[bongo]

After some reloading I can confirm that all units spotted in the original save are still there in the save gramphos has fixed for us.

Technically, this kind of reloading is cheating, I take full responsibility for doing it and I don't want any other team-members to repeat this process. All you need to know is the units are still there.

I will post in the UN explaining my actions, should other teams make any objections against my reloading, I may have to resign from this game.

As I only discovered information we already had from the first save, they may forgive me for doing it...

[bongo]

Pleyed the turn, will send it to GCA shortly.

Here's the turn report:

worker 33 in milchstrand -> library

tile-exchange leifsfischen/parthermünde norpforte/meiertopia

scientist i südspitze, hoppelgarten, alpha, beta, nordpforte

worker 33 s,s,s
cata north of Alpha, rename to Steinkaster A, n,n,n
Ansar sluckauf+sturmböe F
GWS Ostwächter n,n,f
def div flammburg + musketman(now called Henrik) 3*n
Pike peter ustinov, no barracks in webringen anymore so I'll send him towards 3.14 for upgrades, 3*w
Ansar Ingo no,n,s
Rob Halford F
GWS Streihholz nw,f (will move back next turn, I want to screen Eumelbucht completely)
ansar pappel scout a bit, see nothing
Brüllaffe to luxbergen, I plan to disband him there next turn.

worker 34 3*o
worker 15+18 2*so,o
worker 19 3*so
worker 7+30 n,n,no
worker 32 so,so,so

worker 3 (by new catchopolis) - renamed to GCWorker 3, n,nw

Def.Div Meeresblick upgraded in meiertopia


worker 8+10+17 plant forest north of eisgarten
ansar Albert + 15er-gruppe gather south of eichenküste

GCA-army moves no,no,o
9er-gruppe moves west to Yokonomi, except abd-allah-ibn-abuyar who moves to keep our slaves company



40%science, astronomy in 2 turns, 67 gold in 'die kasse', +121gpt.