Dass die Stadtstaaten in den ersten 50 Runden wie die Fliegen sterben, das scheinen sie nicht geändert zu haben. Oder ich hab's in der Liste nicht gefunden.
Dass die Stadtstaaten in den ersten 50 Runden wie die Fliegen sterben, das scheinen sie nicht geändert zu haben. Oder ich hab's in der Liste nicht gefunden.
Mist, jetzt habe ich gerade ein frisches Spiel in Endless Space 2 angefangen.
Eroberungen kann man jetzt wohl einfacher halten.Zitat von nothing-q
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Somewhere over the rainbow...
...there's no place like home.
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Was stimmt denn da nicht?
Ds wurde im vorigen Patch angegangen. Ich bezweifle, dass da noch was passiert. Ich sehe aber auch kein Problem mehr; bei mir sterben nur noch wenige Stadtstaaten.
Das scheinst du misszuverstehen. Wenn man eine Stadt befreit, dann ist diese Stadt gegen Loyalitätsdruck aus denen Städten immun. D.h. wenn du eine Zivlisation wieder zum Leben erweckst, stribt sie nicht gleich wieder 5 Runden später, weil sie durch Loyalität aufgefressen wird.Eroberungen kann man jetzt wohl einfacher halten.
Alle meine Aussagen sind falsch, auch diese hier.
Hm, wenn ich es nochmal lese, könntest Du recht haben.
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Somewhere over the rainbow...
...there's no place like home.
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Na da bin ich mal gespannt, wobei ich das Gefühl habe beim Gouverneursystem bliebe noch einiges zum rebalancen.
Was England betrifft bin ich enttäuscht dass die Landstreitkräfte gestärkt werden, bei dieser Civ wird meiner Meinung nach die Betonung der Seefartsmacht Nr.1 zu wenig herausgearbeitet.
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Also 'gefixt' ist evtl etwas übertreiben, da ich denke die wollen es so, aber ihre Earth Maps haben ein paar 'Fehler'.
Also man kann halt nix einstellen.
Ressourcen sind immer fix, man kann die nicht auch mal randomizen.
Auf der normalen Earth Map gibts immer die selben fixen spawns für StSt und Civs (also auch wenn zB jede Civ in Nord Amerika spawnen kann, spawnen alle Civs und StSt in Nord Amerika am selbem Ort).
Die TSL Earth Map hat 12 fest gesetzte StSt, in Rise and Fall sogar nur 11.
Man kann nur mit 8 Civs spielen, nicht mehr (ausser mit mods, aber das hab ich eher per Zufall herausgefunden).
Es ist sicherlich weder ein Weltuntergang, noch besonders schwer die Maps im set up Menp so zu fixen, das man selber entscheiden kann wie viele Civs, wie viele StSt, mit zufälligen StSt.
Also ich kann auf ner Duel Pangea Map mit 12 Civs spielen, aber mehr als 8 auf deren Earth Map: "Nonono, das geht natürlich nicht."
(Und ja, ich weiss das es auch mods dafür gibt, aber deren ingame Earth Map ist bis auf das oben erwähnte eig ziemlich gelungen und macht spass drauf zu spielen)
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TSL steht eben für "True Starting Locations", wäre doch seltsam wenn die USA dann in Kleinasien starten würde.
Meine erste Einschätzung: Deutlich mehr als erwartet!
Erst einmal die neuen Regeln für gemeinsamen Krieg mit Casus Belli, ich hoffe dass dies sinnlose Kriege der KI deutlich reduzieren wird.
Magnus auf 50% hatte ich in etwa so erwartet, leider keine Anpassung an die Übertragsregelungen die ja die wirkliche Problematik sind. Gibt also weiterhin +100% Schiffe + 50% Magnus um sich ein Wunder zu erholzen, die Schiffe kann man danach ja auch wieder auflösen, bescheuert.
100g pro Anziehungskraft für Nachbarschaften, hätte ja nicht gedacht dass sie das nochmal verdoppeln. Aber soll mir recht sein, in der Phase ist es eh nicht mehr so wichtig zumeist.
Einheiten- und Zivanpassungen, auch ganz gut soweit. Vor allem Loyalitätsverlust durch Plünderungen bei den Mapuche ist ganz spannend.
Eine ganze Reihe KI-Fixes, macht ja Hoffnung darauf dass sie da weiterhin dran arbeiten.
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Weiß jemand um wieviel Uhr es losgeht? Bollerwagentour ist abgesagt...
...Fixed government bonus analysis problem. AI will no longer focus entirely on monarchy.
Give Greece and Pericles some preferences for culture and envoys.
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Ich bin nur für das verantwortlich, was ich schreibe, nicht jedoch für das, was andere hinein interpretieren (wollen)!
Offensichtlich. auch offensichtlich ist, das du nicht verstanden hast was ich geschrieben habe.
Es gibt n Unterschied zwischen der TSL Earth Map und der Earth Map.
Ersteres hat True Start Locations, zweiteres ist nur die Erd Karte.
Bei der Zweiten Version aber hats immer die selben spawns. Also zB in Nordamerika hats dann zB 2 StSt in Alaska/Kanada und 1 Civ in Nordamerika, die immer am selben Ort spawnen. Obs nun Lisbon, Genf und Nubien sind, oder Kumasi, Nan Madol und Japan.
Bei beiden Versionen kann man nur mit 8 Civs und 12 StSt spielen (das mit den 8 Civs konnte ich aber mittlerweile umgehen).
Und bei beiden Versionen stört es mich, das man nicht die wahl hat zB die Ressourcen zu randomizen.
Bei der TSL Earth Map spawnen auch immer die 12/11 selben StSt, es wäre aber interessant wenn auch mal andere StSt spawnen würden.
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ADDITIONS
Joint Wars/Third Party War Update
Players can now ask other players or AI to join wars they are already in.
Trade screen allows Casus Belli to be chosen when declaring a Joint War.
Joint War now requires one party to have denounced the enemy for 5 turns.
Leader screen makes it clear that war declaration is part of a joint war.
Adding 12 new Historic Moments, focused on mid to late game.
First Shipwreck Excavated (+2 Era score)
World's First Shipwreck Excavated (+3 Era score)
First Aerodrome Fully Developed with all buildings (+3 Era score)
First Encampment Fully Developed with all buildings (+3 Era score)
First Entertainment Complex Fully Developed with all buildings (+3 Era score)
First Water Park Fully Developed with all buildings (+3 Era score)
First City with 25 Population (+1 Era score)
World's First City with 25 Population (+2 Era score)
First Seaside Resort (+2 Era score)
World's First Seaside Resort (+3 Era score)
National Park Founded (+3 Era score)
World's First National Park Founded (+4 Era score)
Game Summary Screen
Added 3 new graphs for Rise and Fall games; Era Score, Total Governors, and Total Governor Titles.
BALANCE
Governors:
Pingala's Librarian ability now provides +15% Science and Culture in the city (was +20%).
Governor Magnus Groundbreaker ability reduced from +100% to +50%.
Government Balance Pass – Rise & Fall
Communism: Bonus Production per population from .4 to .6. Overall Production bonus from 10% to 15%.
Democracy: Production per district from 2 to 1.
Fascism: Combat Strength from 4 to 5. Bonus unit production from 20% to 50%.
Government Balance Pass – Base Game
Fascism: Combat Strength from 4 to 5.
Policy Rebalance:
Military Research gives +2 Science from Military Academies, Seaports, and Renaissance Walls (was +1 and did not include Renaissance Walls).
Public Transport gives 100 Gold per Appeal when replacing a Farm with a Neighborhood (was 50).
Ecommerce gives +2 Production and +5 Gold for all your Trade Routes (was +5 and +10 but only for international Trade Routes).
Civ Balance:
Victoria’s Pax Britannica ability now additionally awards a free melee class unit when constructing a Royal Navy Dockyard in a city founded on a foreign continent.
Lautaro's unique ability Swift Hawk has been updated to have an additional effect: Pillaging an enemy city plot now causes that city to lose 5 loyalty
Rebalancing Seondeok's Hwarang ability. Governors established in a city provide +3% Culture and Science for each Promotion they have earned, including their first (was +10% Culture and Science for any Governor regardless of Promotions).
Norwegian Berserker - Production cost reduced from 180 to 160. Combat Strength buff when attacking increased from +7 to +10. Combat Strength de-buff when defending reduced from -7 to -5.
Japanese Samurai – Production cost reduced from 180 to 160. Combat Strength increased from 45 to 48.
Georgian Khevsur – Production cost reduced from 180 to 160. Combat Strength increased from 40 to 45.
Eras:
Made it so when somebody wins the game in the Information Era, it reset all players to be in a Normal Age and take away all Dedication bonuses. This puts everyone on a level playing field for "One More Turn" mode. (If somebody wins in an earlier era, continue the progression of eras and Ages as normal.)
Rebalancing Era Score of historic moments related to late game city projects:
Manhattan Project and Operation Ivy now worth 2 (was 1)
Satellite launch, Moon landing, and first Mars component are now worth 4 if world first and 2 otherwise (was 1 in both cases)
Monasticism dark policy now provides +75% Science in cities with Holy Sites (was +100%).
Map Generation:
Made Turtles Luxury Resource more common.
Miscellaneous:
Religion can now affect the Loyalty of a city. For players who founded a religion, cities get +3 Loyalty for following that religion, but -3 Loyalty per turn if following another player's religion.
Updated Foreign Ministry (Government building): Unit combat bonus now applies to City-State units even when they are not levied.
Number of envoys received from Liberating City-States is boosted as you progress through the game.
Commandos’ Melee unit promotion now grants +1 movement
MODDABILITY UPDATES
Governors and Governor Promotions now use 'Promotion Sets' which allows more than one governor type to be associated with a promotion and vice versa
BUG FIXES
Only show the "Capital Lost" when a player loses their original capital city (was also showing when a player lost their new capital city that also happened to be the original capital city of a different player).
Fixed for Priority Target highlighting invalid hexes.
Districts that cannot be repaired because the player is missing their pre-requisite Tech or Civic (ex. in a conquered city) will now say this in the city production UI.
For Great People that activate over luxury resources, a tile with a district belonging to another player is no longer treated as a valid activation tile (and it will not end up highlighted)
Frederick Barbarossa's UA no longer gives a combat bonus against Free Cities.
Liberating a city will now make that city immune against your Loyalty pressure, as was the design intent.
Correctly display when a Wonder needs an adjacent district. Clarified that the adjacent district requirement also must be a district owned by this city.
Fixed the combined arms boost by changing it to be “Have 3 Armies or Armadas.”
Fixed Victoria's Pax Britannica ability in the base game.
Enforced that cities cannot be founded on tiles with districts. It was possible before with the relaxed minimum city distance present in island situations.
Fixed an edge case where the historic moments for creating a Trading Post in another civ could be repeated and exploited
Made it so Abu al-Qasim al-Zahrawi only heals land units.
Fixed Bugs related to expelling units out of a City's or Civilization's borders when applicable. Units should no longer be expelled from a Free City when it flips due to Loyalty unless the city flips to a major civ and rules require it.
Fixed an issue with not counting armadas and Fleets for the Triple Seven achievement.
Ensure proper display of National Parks after a save is loaded.
Don't show Paradrop unit action if unit cannot move.
Fixed a bug preventing the Hetairoi Great General bonus from being applied when in the same hex as a general.
Fixed a bug preventing the Persian Immortal from using melee as its default attack.
Fixed a bug where Renaissance walls and Georgian unique walls were not being affected by the Limes Policy.
Addressed audio issues with large and mod-expanded map sizes
TEXT FIXES
Corrected the bonus text for the Zoning Commissioner Governor promotion (it said 30% but it is actually 20 %.)
Updated Rise and Fall Agenda descriptions to include what that leader dislikes.
Clarified Kilwa's description to show that it increases the type bonus from city states instead of the yield.
Removed a redundant font icon in the name of a city-state quest.
Updated Civilopedia text for Anarchy, since Anarchy does not affect Era Score.
Clarified text for Georgia's Unique Ability.
Clarified text for first sea/air unit Historic Moments.
Added information to technology descriptions about what resources are unlocked for harvesting (some were missing).
Document that Patron Saint Governor Promotion also helps Warrior Monks.
Removed "doubling" and "tripling" in description of effects for tourism. Use +100% or +200% instead.
Added Housing info to Polder description
Fixed the Fascism combat bonus description being incorrect in base game.
Updated wording for Religious Alliance to indicate that it refers to cities dominated by the player's religion.
Changed some text that was incorrectly referring to "Identity" instead of "Loyalty.”
GRAPHIC FIXES
Reduced the amount of snow on the Arena building so that it doesn't blow out as much at night.
Don't play Paradrop animation if the destination tile is not visible to the current observer.
AI
AI respects and uses new rules for joint wars and third party wars
AI evaluates joint and third party wars based on the chosen casus belli, and applies casus belli to its own offers
In trading cities, AI considers resources and great works it will gain or lose in the deal
As part of a city attack, will not pillage a separate city’s districts
AI will prioritize a city over units if it can capture or nearly capture the city
Fixed issues with AI strategies, including yield priorities and era strategies (as reported on community forums, thanks!).
Fixed government bonus analysis problem. AI will no longer focus entirely on monarchy.
Fixed issues regarding embarking units near enemy warships, evaluation now takes proper account of that.
AI can modify a deal with just gold when asked what would you give.
Germany (or anyone favoring minor civ war) won't care about their relationship to a minor civ suzerain unless it's them.
Give Greece and Pericles some preferences for culture and envoys.
Fix round off problem that was giving low threat values in duel maps (or with only 2 Civs left).
Free cities units that are not involved in attacking other units will stay within their own territory.
Improved city defense unit management.
MULTIPLAYER
Auto End Turn is now disabled for the remainder of a player's turn if they unready their turn.
Fixed multiplayer stall related to players disconnecting while the host was loading into a game.
Fixed zombie connection issue that was preventing some players from joining multiplayer games after a previous join.
Players should not be able to unready their turns after their turn timer elapses.
Dead civilizations are no longer selectable after loading a save in multiplayer.
Multiplayer quick saves now go in the proper save folder for the current game mode.
Fixed default multiplayer handicap for third player in the Jadwiga's Legacy scenario.
UI
Changes to the way Governor Title notifications are handled.
The Governor Title notifications turn blocking no longer requires players to use the Governor Title to be dismissed.
Appoint Governor Notification will not appear if the player does not yet have a city to assign one.
Updated the window style of the Dedication screen and Era Rollover screen, emphasizing Era / Age types.
Added food needed for population growth in City Details Panel.
Made sure we only show the Emergency row and tab if there are emergencies involving both the selected player and the local player.
Fixed an issue where players could have duplicate city names, all names have to be unique now.
Espionage mission history for failed missions will now show loot information if provided in the mission info
Tech Tree - Ensure we update the live data for a tech when it's boosted.
Schön, dass Berserker und Samurai aufgewertet werden
Jetzt kommt wieder dieses ewige Warten.
Jenachdem wie die 'Morgen' Defenieren kann der Patch auch heute Nacht um 4:00 live gehen.
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Wenn ich das richtige sehe, dann ist der Sping Patch ausschließlich für Rise and Fall. Das Standardspiel wird gar nicht mehr verbessert?
In Anbetracht dessen, dass da drei Stichpunkte sind, die sich ausschließlich aufs Grundspiel beziehen, würde ich sagen: Doch
Sicherlich kommen aber keine Balanceänderungen mehr.
Alle meine Aussagen sind falsch, auch diese hier.
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